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| So, from what I've heard, these final episodes of NGE are supposed to depict what played out psychologically whereas the film EoE is supposed to depict what physically happened .. That being said, this episode seemed to sort of retread a lot of previously covered ground. We know Shinji avoids interaction/intimacy to avoid rejection, we know Asuka is afraid of being alone, we know Rei is confused about who she is since she comes from a line of clones, we know Misato has complicated feelings towards her emotionally-absent father and tries to compensate. WE KNOW We did learn a bit more about the Human Instrumentality project and I guess this episode was supposed to be a representation of everyone's hearts melding together by experiencing each other's inner monologues and memories, but it sort of dragged on a bit and it would have been nice to see how it all came to this without having to watch a separate movie afterwards. Like I guess Gendo just threw everyone into the LCL soup and mixed them all together or something? We saw flashes of Ritsuko and Misato's dead bodies so did he kill them and dump them all together? |
| at first i told myself: "WTH am i watching??" but after minute or two i realized - this anime is not about the angels or whatever, but about the chracters. purely masterpiece. basically though, every character have it's own background but the same agenda - to be needed, not to be alone. and this episode portray it fine. |
| Welcome to second-to-last episode of Neon Genesis Evangelion, aka depressed interview simulator Pretty much all anime today slightly dim the screen whenever there is a possible seizure-inducing scene. Evangelion, on the other hand, be like STROBE LIGHT TIME BABYYY So does Gendo have everyone sleeping right now sharing a dream right now like in inception to progress his human instrumentality project which does, something? Whatever it is, not gonna lie, everything that was said in this episode was at least somewhat relatable. |
  NYANPASU  whiskey tango foxtrot |
| I actually liked this episode, altough I agree that this could have been done in much less time. There's only one episode left. I really wonder how this is going to finish. |
| Instrumentality. Group therapy session. Oh boy. Fellas Imma be honest, it's ok to be confused cuz even I am too. But Important things to note are how everyone has issues with human connections. They push people away or pull them in closer, or do a mix of the two all to fill or deny that empty void that exists inside all of us. |
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| what the fuck i'm not sure what this was, i suppose a look inside the minds of everyone. revealing their deepest feelings. don't know how much of it can be called truth or whatever but this was a great episode. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
| W Shinji. W Evas. W everything. W Rei. |
| The beginning of the mind fuck that is the final 2 episodes. |
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| As an episode itself, it was really interesting as a complete psycho mind-fuck. As the penultimate episode of the series that still has many unknowns regarding what this project actually is, what the angels are, the Second Impact, and what Seele actually wanted......this episode was a complete throwaway. It was an episode that should've come in a few episodes earlier or only included with a longer episode run. With the episode count as is, it should've been compacted to still give the effect while allowing time for proper pllot progression. Feels like there is far too much to be resolved in a single final episode. Getting the idea now of why the original ending is considered like marmite and the original movies along with the rebuild series were made. Time to finish this off now, get the movies watched at some point and then go through Re:Build :P |
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| Huh, that was quite an episode. First very rushed ep. 24, now drastic change of atmosphere. One episode left. |
AdnashFeb 9, 2023 5:39 PM
| this episode showed exactly what makes Neon Genesis Evangelion special. all the mental and emotional topics are discussed and challenged. |
| what depression does to a mf, author projecting hard af lol |
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| I can understand why people dont like this episode and it can done in shorter time and dont need to be 20 minute. But i actually liked it. Its nice to hearing from them that they all feel alone in their own way and try to deal with it differently. Their relationships with families and what affect it had on them |
| this is the world where your mind decides what will be |
| That. Was fucking. Awesome!!!! Watching them all confront their deepest, darkest aspects that they hide from themselves was fucking gnarly!!!! In the episode where Gendo and Shinji talk at Yui's grave, Gendo says forgetting is what let's people go on living (he says it another time... when he's on a train with his second in command I think). But the human mind'll be damned before it lets a single thing go; it's ability to hold on to stuff out of sight while that stuff leeches into and affects someone is crazy!!! What am I doing? Why am I doing it? What do I REALLY want? What am I afraid of? Woo!!! They really dug through some shit! Trying to keep up with the separate mental explorations left me winded!!! |
| the most important episode of the show if you ask me. this helps a lot to understand the complexity of the characters, diving in the mind of Rei, Asuka, Misato and shinji, during instrumentality. truly a masterpiece. |
| ''Touch the darkness inside me'' |
| Great episode. Loved the artistic approach. It is quite emotional and transparent, like something embarrassing you wouldn't normally talk about was spoken out loud. These characters are all so traumatised :/ |
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| Ah dear god, ah dear god this episode as well as the finale. I don’t know where to start honestly. For people who just think we don’t like this episode because of “Psychological Babble” that’s just wrong right there. For starters I don’t ya know don’t like the episode because it’s psychological more or less as the core premise, it’s more a fact that it suffered because of it’s budget and how it was executed. Thing is, yes, it does flesh out the characters on their backstories that I will give those people for, but here’s the thing, Evangelion up to this point has been a stellar show up till now, the only reason I’m NOT seeing it as a bad show is mainly because the fact that the Evangelion movies do exist as an alternative to what we were originally given. Now it’s not the only thing in the Sci-Fi genre that restrictions in it’s production, for example two franchises come to mind with me: Transformers and Doctor Who (more specifically for the former, Beast Wars). Beast Wars as a show that had really dated CGI because of the 90s and the fact that CGI itself was in it’s earlier years as a piece of technology however the crew were able to make a great show out of this resource and made the characters likeable and memorable as well as the story being compelling to make it one of the best in the Transformers franchise. Doctor Who, this only applies to the classic series and is widely known that the budget of the show at the time was on a shoestring budget and as a result the BBC had to make do with what they had because the executives thought that the show was going to be doomed from the start but much to their surprise, the creativity used for the various monsters, locations and stories as the cast for that show also being memorable, worked out for everyone on the production team. Neon Genesis Evangelion on the other hand, has no excuse. We already know that Shinji has issues of his own, same with Misato, Asuka and Rei specifically and essentially the biggest problem with this episode is that BECAUSE it’s psychological, it comes off as rather repetitive and very headache inducing when you are trying to comprehend it all. There’s only so much one guy can take with seeing just text and the characters just sitting there with just their voices being the only thing that’s been heard. Yes they are traumatised, yes they are people with their fears and doubts I get it. But what happened to Seele? Are we ever going to look into the fact that Gendo was talking about Lillith and that stuff on his hand? What happened to Rei? What happened to Asuka? What happened to Ritsuko and all the others at NERV and the school? None of this is even addressed or even acknowledged in the whole layout of the episode. And it clearly shows as a result. It’s like GAINAX just gave up as soon they knew that they ran out of budget. Again you can do so much more with the limitations you have, provided you make an effort. Note effort being put into the overall product. Which is something I wish I could believe with this episode. |
| wtf is even going on??? Most confusing episode i have ever seen in any piece of media |
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| what the hell is even going on |
Reply to Apreggi
How the actual fuck is anyone meant to know what’s going on (story wise) without watching the movie before this XD you can’t just flash images of dead Misato and Ritsuko, and just have text saying the instrumentality started with no explanation.
Other than that, no complaints. People need to stop saying “psycho babble” and actually listen if they want to understand the characters. It’s a character driven show for gods sake guys -_-
Other than that, no complaints. People need to stop saying “psycho babble” and actually listen if they want to understand the characters. It’s a character driven show for gods sake guys -_-
| @Apreggi How the actual fuck is anyone meant to know what’s going on (story wise) without watching the movie before this XD you can’t just flash images of dead Misato and Ritsuko, and just have text saying the instrumentality started with no explanation. Apreggi said: True. I liked the episode, unlike most here, but it just happened. I understood most of it, because i was spoiled with the movie. But it seems, this is what is happening when they are connected as one. Its the pshycological part while the movie EoE represents what happened "outside", just like showing Misato shot dead. And the rest (including Misato later) will be soup, but they didnt show that.How the actual fuck is anyone meant to know what’s going on (story wise) without watching the movie before this XD you can’t just flash images of dead Misato and Ritsuko, and just have text saying the instrumentality started with no explanation. I liked it, but i could understand, specially back in the 90s why people hated it or people in early 00s were mega confused. Only later on, with internet, movies etc we truly understood what the hell is going on. |
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| that was easily my fav episode from NGE yet , character dissections with their identity crisis, loved the changes between characters and their perceptions of each other. All the lies the characters tell themselves to feel comfort, beautiful identity crisis drama that was. If anything this show has done well aside from the creative and unique way its edited , its the detail in character writing , getting into their inner motivations. |
| It wasn't super special but it was somewhat good. |
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Reply to Voltlighter
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This episode is pretty much worthless. Psycho-babble. It has the feel of a filler episode, like some kind of buffer between 24 and 26.
Bleh.
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This episode is pretty much worthless. Psycho-babble. It has the feel of a filler episode, like some kind of buffer between 24 and 26.
Bleh.
| @Voltlighter I completely agree. I hope the final episode is better. |
| God help me it's getting so mindfcking confusing. |
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